@ Ben
Ben, on this matter, I agree with you that UN is impotent. But that doesn’t mean that UN should be dismissed. And that is the main reason why I decided to make this as my thesis …one more thing…please don’t comment on my blog while you holds your piss………..!!

@ pj
A nasty situation indeed. It is hard to be optimistic while we look at this endless cycle of hatred and violence.

Hamas’ approach of violence is I think one of the major obstacles for the Palestine to have a lasting peace with the Israelis. And I also agree with your stance on how the Palestinians should unify themselves first before they ask for a sovereign status.

Arabs are….well…I don’t know how to refer them. Its just that they are so divided and we can’t rely the heavy burden of creating a lasting peace in Middle East to those Arab states.

@ bung tobing
True that the ideal peace brokering is to invite conflicting parties into one negotiation table. But who will be neutral enough to be the sponsors of this negotiation? No way that Israel and Hamas can sit side-by-side and initiate their own meeting. France might be neutral enough, but then they have to deal with their ally, US, that perceives Hamas as terrorist group, and that status of Hamas will certainly draws a bold line that Hamas’ can’t cross if they’re about to get into any conference room.

But I agree on your last point, Hamas and Fatah must find their own deal before they face the whole world. Its a shame that a shattered Palestine still have to deals with an internal clash of their major political groups.

There can no peace because there is no two parties at the negotiating table that is interested in a lasting peace. Read Hamas’s charter or constitution if you will. Articles 7,11,12 - heck read all of it. Irrespective of what they say in the press these are their stated positions on Palestine, Jews in General, and the status of christians in the proposed Islamic state of palestine. Where in this charter is there a basis for negotiation with Israel? - won’t be easy thats for sure. The palestinians need to present a united front that accepts Israel as a nation before any negotiation is even possible. Any agreement by the PA will not be accepted by Hamas and Hamas is not in a position to dictate terms to Israel which it has been trying to do.

As for other Arab states getting involved well its just hard to see how thats going to work. Egypt and Jordan have had several wars with Israel, ostensibly ons Palestines behalf, and paid a heavy price. In gratitude the PLO tried to take over Jordan which resulted in them getting kicked out to Lebanon. Hamas does not get along with Egypt due to their connections with the Moslem Brotherhood which calls for the overthrow of Mubaraks Egypt and its replacement with (another) Islamic state. The Saudis can’t do much - They would have to go through Jordan to reach Israel. I would like so see how that would work since the Hashemites who rule Jordan used to rule the Hejaz before the Saudis invaded it back in 1924. Lebanon can’t do much since its debatable as to who actually runs the place between hezbollah or the government. Syrians have their own problems with their MB so they wouldn’t be much help. In short the Palestinians are somewhat abandoned by their Arab neighbors and will have to come to terms sooner or later with the Israelis. In light of this how are continued rocket attacks and the resultant eye-for-eyelash retaliations can be seen as a extremely cynical means to propagate the hate and prorogue(delay) the peace?

Thanks

hmm kenapa mesir dan saudi ga ikutan,, kalo saya menilainya gini mba..konflik kali ini kan ceritanya HAMAS tu yang duluan nembakin, nah kita kan tau mesir dan Saudi tu ga dukung HAMAS, mereka dukung Fatah..jadi ya mau gimana,, (emang bener kata mba karna mereka juga takut ma amrik) tapi ada satu lagi yang kita lupakan mba..HAMAS tu dukungan IRAN..Nah kalo mesir dan saudi bntu tu HAMAS, secara ga langsung dia membantu Iran, dan pengaruh iran makin gede de disana..kan Iran tu ancaman juga bagi Arab..hehe..jadi ya gitu ini perebutan antara mereka yang memiliki power di kawasan..kalau saya melihatnya gitu mba..hehehe..(walaupun mungkin ada niat dari Israel sekalian gitu ngebantai, jadi sekali mendayung dua tiga pula terlampaui..hahaha..)

hmm..wah Islam dan kristen bersatu??hmm..ya mungkin,, tapi jadinya konflik agama dong ini,,oh ya saya disini bukan mihak Israel ya mba..hahaha..saya benci juga Israel sebenarnya..apalagi ketika pada tahun 2000 si Ariel Sharon menginjakkan kakinya di Masjidil Aqsa..wahh..tu orang bener2 gila abis..hahhaa..

pengen liat Israel 2012 masih ada ga ya..hahhaa…

it’s good to receive this surprise from mbak Rima, isn’t it?!

@Reza
halo Reza.

permasalahan Gaza skarang emang pelik dan rumit yach?! Saya nyalahin Fatah karena mereka bisa dibilang sempat jadi anteknya Israel Zionis karena mereka tidak serius mempertahankan kedaulatan Palestina. saya nyalahin dan nyeselin sikap Fatah yang itu, saya nganggep Fatah termasuk biang kerok pengepungan Gaza sekarang, salah satu sumber masalah…makanya saya bersyukur dan senang sewaktu Fatah bersatu dengan Hamas melawan Israel sekarang. ayo lah kompak gitu kan enak…dari kemaren2 kek?! dan saya masih marah dan bete ma negara2 Arab, Mesir yang tunduk dan takut ma Amrik. Huuuuhhh sebel banget…tarik aja tuh semua uang mereka dari bank2 Amrik biar Amrik tau rasa. gini lah kalo loyal ma duit! Grrrr….

Saya sempet penasaran ma reaksi Kristen Palestina mengenai hal ini. Trus saya maen2 ke blog Iman Brotoseno dan BINGO! ada artikel dari sudut Kristen Palestina. Luar biasa bagus tuh artikelnya…Pak Iman gitu loch?! Very worth to read. Kalo Islam-Kristen dunia bersatu melawan Zionist Israel (dalam artian melawan tanpa kekerasan gituh) pasti masalah ini cepet selese….heeeh just wishing everyday…tapi kalo ga membaik lama2 bisa pesimis deh

hahaha

but i will write another opinion regarding this never-ending and useless conflict.

you know what? i have just realized that i have been following this dreaded conflict since my first year of high school, which means it’s been almost six and half years. and still no solution. oh well.

anyway, everyone speaks of truce and peace, we all want that don’t we? but what we forgot on how to obtain that peace? what is the underlying problem of this conflict? who has the power to do so?

yes i know you are an avid supporter of the UN(which can be seen from your ambition in becoming the secretary general) but frankly bek, when it comes to solving this problem, which to me has become a yearly thing, i could not agree more when a colleague of mine stated that the UN is surely impotent.

truce and cease fire will only halt momentarily of this problem, what needs to be done is to find a final solution for this matter. this where the UN/UNSC is hoped to be of good use. In other words, ideally speaking, states must put aside their interests(if any) and impose sanctions towards the conflicting parties. sanctions concerning the territorial expansionism of Israel and the 24/7 rockets of Hamas.

a simple yet hard solution.
but this is what needs to be done. so who am i pointing fingers at? the United Nations and it’s double standard member(s)? yes indeed.

now, how about if we focus out attention towards national problems such as the earthquake in Papua or perhaps the incident at Trowulan and their idiotic PIM?
Indonesians(mostly those sick fundamentalists) seems to be more interested in matters that aren’t really significant towards Indonesia. oh well..